Local knowledge from local guys: Dye's Valley

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Oct. 18, 2011
By Anne Szeker, PGATOUR.COM site producer

The Nationwide Tour has reached their final full-field event of the season. There are spots in the Nationwide Tour Championship at Daniel Island up for grabs and PGA TOUR cards on the line. And this week at TPC Sawgrass is going to be anything but easy.

After last year's inaugural Winn-Dixie Jacksonville Open, the reviews of Dye's Valley from players seem unanimous: the rough is, well, rough. It was the only 2010 event on Tour to have a single-digit winning score.

What makes Dye's Valley one of the toughest courses on this Tour? Veteran Frank Lickliter II put it simply: "It's the tightest and it actually has rough."

"It's definitely hard," said Steve Wheatcroft, who lives in nearby Jacksonville Beach, Fla. "I haven't played here in tournament conditions, but I played here a couple weeks ago and saw what the rough was like then and I can only imagine how it is now. The way they grow the rough here, you have to hit fairways, you have to hit greens. It's definitely a good test."

Local Len Mattice agrees. "It's a top 3 course on the Nationwide Tour, if not the best. I would say the rough is very strong; it's very deep. And the par has been changed to par-70 so, in relation to par, it's a very demanding course."

During the year, Dye's Valley is played as a par-72. Two par-5s are converted to par-4s for the Nationwide Tour event: Nos. 8 and 17. These two holes will be among the toughest players will face.

"It's a great golf course. To me, it's the best we're going to play all year out here on this Tour. I think it's just the design," added former Ponte Vedra Beach, Fla. resident Stephen Gangluff. "I think they get it in the best shape. They'll get it to how the PGA TOUR gets their courses. They'll get it a little faster, a little harder."

  Lickliter Wheatcroft Gangluff
Times you've played Valley? I live on the 10th fairway 20 A whole lot
Hardest hole? 8 17 6
Winning score? Hopefully whatever I shoot 10- or 12-under 10-under
Key to winning here? Being able to drive your ball in the fairway and keep your ball under the hole. The greens out here have a little bit of slope, and with the speed they're going to be -- a 12 or 13 -- placing the ball is going to be key. Just hitting fairways and making putts. You have to make putts anywhere you go, but hitting fairways here is crucial because you need to avoid the rough. They get the rough up and it's firm -- very firm and fast. I didn't play here last year, but I was here and that's what I noticed. If you hit in the rough you're penalized.
A word from last year's champion David Mathis
It's a golf course where, the way the Bermuda is, you just have to drive it in the fairway. And if you drive it in the fairway, obviously, from that point, you can hit it on the correct side of the hole and hole some putts and there you go. But if you're not hitting it in the fairway, it can really be penal.

When the wind gets to blowing -- it's just a good test of golf. Some of those holes like [the par-3 5th], the wind can be blowing 30 miles an hour on that tee it seems like and you're hitting only an 8-iron but you're like 'Oh my God, where do I hit it?' Especially if they put the pin in the front left. So you've just got to hit it. You've got to strike it.

I think Sunday there last year, I drove it in every fairway and that makes it totally different. I mean, it makes golf a lot easier for everybody, doesn't it? I didn't realize it until after the fact. After I won, they were like 'you know you drove it in every fairway?' I was like 'no, I didn't know that.' Well, that makes a huge difference.
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